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- jsherer 7小时前I was confused a few weeks ago. Check out the go pkg: https://pkg.go.dev/modernc.org/sqlite
1. gitlab.com/cznic/sqlite is the primary repo
2. github.com/cznic/sqlite was the github mirror but it moved
3. github.com/mordernc-org/sqlite is the read-only mirror of the primary repo
Cheers!
- ncruces 4小时前There's also my take on this [1], which does machine translation from C to Go via Wasm using [2].
It's a somewhat less faithful translation, since I manually ported the VFS (SQLite OS abstraction layer).
OTOH, each SQLite connection is sandboxed (can't access/corrupt Go memory, or other SQLite connections). And it should run everywhere Go runs.
- yodon 7小时前Seems like there are some trademark issues with just calling this SQLite.
- tptacek 2小时前It's cznic/sqlite in Go-land; this is just a quirk of HN titling.
- gnabgib 2小时前A quirk of this submitter's choice? We've seen it several times before without the trademark violation:
2023: Go port of SQLite without CGo (255 points, 118 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35488980
2020: Cznic/sqlite: Sqlite in pure Golang (no CGO) (6 points, not interesting for discussion.. this project is old) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24358826
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- tptacek 2小时前I don't care, I just wrote to clarify the project, in the Go community, isn't called "sqlite". That wouldn't make sense; there are multiple (pin-compatible) sqlite interfaces for Go.
- downrightmike 7小时前SQL would have been SEQL if not for trademark issues, the torch is passed
- 9rx 3小时前SEQUEL. It was a play on QUEL [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QUEL_query_languages].
- usrnm 6小时前The readme really lacks the answer to the "why" question. What's the use case, why should I prefer it over real sqlite?
- ameliaquining 6小时前The "port" terminology is misleading; this is real SQLite, compiled from C to Go using https://gitlab.com/cznic/ccgo/-/tree/master/v4 (by the same author; this library is its most widely used application). The use case is that a lot of Go codebases prefer to completely eschew FFI because a lot of the nice properties of Go's tooling and whatnot (cross-compilation is trivial, binaries are automatically static on Linux, etc.) only hold if the entire build is pure Go.
- ivanjermakov 5小时前So because of Go's design mistakes.
- 10000truths 2小时前No. A mistake is unintentional. Go's rejection of a C runtime dependency is a deliberate trade off, and one that has served it well for its design goals.
- ameliaquining 5小时前Compared to what? Other languages AFAIK don't offer those properties at all, except I guess Zig.
- 0x20cowboy 40分钟前If your codebase is pure golang it’s trivial to cross compile for different OSs (aside from binary signing on macOS). If you add some kind of C code you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a binary. Funny enough, I was looking for this exact project for that reason last week.
- tptacek 2小时前The biggest reason you'd want a cgo-free sqlite is if you're cross-compiling; for instance, from your macOS dev laptop to an x64 dev server.
- blubber 6小时前Because it's cgo-free maybe?
- usrnm 6小时前Cgo overhead is trivial compared to what's happening inside a database engine, totally not worth it
- anupcshan 6小时前It's not just about overhead/performance. cgo-free means no need to set up a cross-compiler if targeting other devices. Just "go build" with the right GOARCH and GOOS will let you compile a binary that will run on most devices.
- dizhn 6小时前Static builds cannot have cgo too if I am not mistaken.
- agwa 5小时前The following go flags let you build statically-linked cgo binaries, provided that all the C libraries that you're using support static linking and don't call the NSS functions in glibc:
-tags netgo,osusergo -linkmode external -extldflags -static
I regularly compile (cross-compile, even) static Go binaries that use the cgo sqlite package. But it's certainly a lot simpler if you can avoid cgo.
- usrnm 6小时前I'm pretty sure that C is a much better choice if you really care about binaries that run on most devices
- Ferret7446 5小时前Depends on what you mean by "most". The cross compile story for Go is far superior to C for the platforms it supports.
- anupcshan 4小时前This project is for using Sqlite from Go code. It is not a general purpose replacement.
- figmert 6小时前Absolutely not. Maybe runtime overheads are minimal, but builds are so much harder to do. And yes, you need to figure it out maybe once, but it is still a lot more effort than just pulling in a new dependency. Now repeat that same effort for every new application, vs pulling that into every new application.
- raggi 6小时前that’s really not true when the database is all in memory, statements are prepared, and so on.
but the overheads also stack up, the database/sql api is fairly allocation heavy too unless you do a lot of work and that friction increases quite a bit with the ffi boundary.
this is not to suggest “modernc is faster” - it’s not for a lot a workloads.
there are opportunities for optimization all over both approaches.
- pstuart 7小时前So is this a handmade port vs the translated port done by modernc?
- vicek22 7小时前modernc is the name of the GitHub fork (identical repo) of the same project. This is machine translated, not hand written.
- ftgffsdddr 7小时前Gitlab requires js
Would you please host it on a different forge, eg codeberg
- zzo38computer 6小时前I agree that it would be better to not require JavaScripts. (But, I think it can be helpful to have mirrors on other services as well, for this and other reasons.)
However, there are some work arounds to some situations. Git could (presumably) still be used, if you have that (although you might not want the entire repository and only some files, so that is a possible issue with this). If you have a URL of a specific file that you can change "blob" to "raw" in the URL to access the raw file (this works on other services as well and is not specific to Gitlab). For commits, you can add ".patch" or ".diff" on the end of the URL (this also is not specific to Gitlab).
- slopinthebag 7小时前Codeberg requires html
Would you please host it on a different forge that doesn't require a web browser?
- bananamogul 6小时前HackerNews requires js.
Would you please post this on a different discussion forum?
- wild_egg 5小时前No it doesn't.
Typo, should be: github.com/modernc-org/sqlite