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• Planktonne 7小时前
  Violence is a morally acceptable response to being oppressed and controlled; women were not given a fair stake in society, and therefore it would be unreasonable to expect them to be bound by its laws.
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  • joemazerino 0分钟前
    Violence against children being morally acceptable is an interesting take.
  • scotty79 6小时前
    What about modern non-wealthy? They neither get a fair stake in society nor even a voice that matters. Voting pretty much doesn't work. How much the issue is supported by non-wealthy voters has no bearing on the laws that are going to be written that affect it.

    And by non-wealthy I pretty much mean anyone that has to work to live, regardless of whether they can find the job or not.

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    • jzemeocala 4小时前
      After having spent 20+ years growing up in rural FL, I've been telling people for years now that: "poor people are the new negro".

      If you are poor, than you look poor usually. And people ABSOLUTELY treat you differently from the government to the local store.

      I lived in one really messed up part of FL called interlachen that really opened my eyes to that fact.
    • Planktonne 5小时前
      Voting not being effective is quite a long way from voting not being allowed at all.

      However, if we get to the point when control over their own lives is denied to people, it won't be unreasonable for them to resist. We've had slave revolutions before, and they weren't morally wrong.

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      • bluefirebrand 2小时前
        > Voting not being effective is quite a long way from voting not being allowed at all

        I disagree pretty strongly.

        If the system is rigged in such a way that you mostly get the same outcomes no matter how people vote, that is only a razor thin line away from not being allowed to vote at all
      • scotty79 4小时前
        > Voting not being effective is quite a long way from voting not being allowed at all.

        How so exactly? Do you think that the fact that people in russia, for example, can vote is far from them not being allowed to vote?

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        • Planktonne 4小时前
          I wouldn't have a moral problem with people in Russia engaging in violent resistance.
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          • scotty79 4小时前
            How about US? It's just one step removed. Or maybe half a step?
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            • Planktonne 3小时前
              1. It feels like you're trying to walk me into some imagined rhetorical trap; if that's the case, feel free to speed up.

              2. It's completely possible that justified violence could happen in the US; it would, as anywhere, depend on what violence by who for what reason, but there's nothing that makes the US special in this regard. In the past, on multiple occasions (resistance to slavery, for example), political violence in the cause of freedom has occurred, and I don't think that was immoral.

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              • scotty79 2小时前
                Sorry. I was just curious about your response. Thanks.
  • jpfromlondon 6小时前
    The suffragists arguably achieved a great deal more, without them the measures of the suffragettes would likely have set women’s rights back further.

    Yet they are all but forgotten.

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    • Planktonne 5小时前
      I don't agree that the suffragists are forgotten. Beyond that though, I'd say that lots of successful liberation movements have had multiple wings with different methods.
• sohex 5小时前
  Shout out to the best named feminist group of all time, W.I.T.C.H. The Women’s International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell.
• stefantalpalaru 8小时前
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