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- blitzar 17小时前Is the "mic drop" in the headline refering to how bad a deal this is for any startup that takes it?
- shimman 1天前What a great way to boost usage before an IPO. Definitely not scammy behavior!
- xg15 15小时前Is the term "tokenmaxxing" now really used unironically and as a desirable thing?
- 1123581321 22小时前This sounds like how you get (or at least used to get) free AWS and Azure credits in your first x years as a startup or until you met revenue thresholds. You wouldn't get as many, but, you didn't have to give up a share of your company, to my knowledge.
Were there actually larger credit grants that would've been in exchange for equity, or, is OpenAI doing something novel?
- KHRZ 1天前If that's in API price, they may be better of with the subscription.
- jonahbenton 1天前The desperation is strong in this one
- bravetraveler 1天前The first taste is free, with a certain perspective on equity
- altairprime 1天前Isn’t that a taxable gift, i.e. reportable income for the recipient, given the normal price charged for said tokens, though?
- bravetraveler 23小时前I have no idea, just a BigCo engineer! Like someone getting hooked... taxes are a Later Problem. Anyway, the deal sounds less like a 'mic drop' and more like something else hitting the table.
Say 'Whizbang Model 6.8' comes out and tokens burn ~5x faster; what to do? Agree to give up less of the business or hope for proportional growth? The two million that had been agreed is no longer truly available/applicable. How this and the equity 'shake out' are probably relevant.
At risk of upsetting people, token value is arbitrary. What model, what time of day? What transaction? All to say: I have no idea what the Tax Man or our fake business would want :) Above my pay grade, thankfully!
- HWR_14 22小时前No, because it's an investment for equity
- kotaKat 16小时前It's just a little casual grooming for customers to prey on, is all.
- dTal 17小时前Reminder that "$2 million worth of OpenAI tokens" is meaningless and codes for "as much access to OpenAI infrastructure as Sam Altman feels like letting you have".
- interstice 17小时前It could be at cost, but probably not
- mawadev 20小时前Very odd shadow economy that is in the making here.
- interstice 17小时前Like sci-fi with currency based in kwh or life minutes but this time it's tokens
- just_once 1天前I thought code was free now
- JacobAsmuth 1天前Good ideas are expensive. Which is why he's blanket investing, to catch the winners.
- just_once 16小时前But why would they agree? Coding is free (or at least $200 a month)
- bigbuppo 1天前Hey, it's the thing I said was going to happen. Thank's for taking my suggestion, Sam.
- dude250711 1天前Adding more layers to circular investments.
- moogly 1天前Sounds like they have an oversupply of these tokens.
- sellmesoap 1天前It's only a token offer... I'll see myself out.
- phendrenad2 1天前Maybe they can borrow a few OpenAI engineers too?
- seattle_spring 1天前> i am excited to see what will happen with tokenmaxxing startups, both for how they work internally and the products they can build.
Am I the only one who gets a physical, visceral churning in their gut when they read/hear someone unironically using the term "tokenmaxxing"?
This is the absolute worst timeline, and I'm embarrassed to even be in an industry adjacent to these dorks.
- cyanydeez 1天前so weve officially reached the gambling sddiction portion of the LLM show. good luck FOMO