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- ahf8Aithaex7Nai 19 minutes agoI’m 41 and drive a 2011 car: no touchscreen, no GPS—just filling up, checking tire pressure, and an occasional oil change. None of my household appliances are smart, and I don’t have a smartwatch. I subscribe to two podcasts and pay a few euros a month for a VPS and a handful of domains. No Spotify, no Netflix, no subscription software. At the beginning of the year, I bought one of those e-scooters you ride while standing up. I installed the app needed to configure the scooter. Then I uninstalled the app. Now a little blue Bluetooth icon is always flashing because the thing wants to connect to my smartphone. I stuck a small sticker over it so it wouldn’t bother me. With the app, you can lock the scooter via smartphone. Instead, I carry a bike lock with me. I always wonder what people who live in this hyper-connected world do when they lose their smartphone. (Please don’t answer that. The question is rhetorical, and I’m not really interested in the answer.)
- abetusk 27 minutes agoSensor watch [0] and sensor watch pro [1] for upgrading Casio watches.
[0] https://www.crowdsupply.com/oddly-specific-objects/sensor-wa...
[1] https://www.crowdsupply.com/oddly-specific-objects/sensor-wa...
- Fwirt 8 hours agoI realize the purpose of the essay, and I agree with the author's sentiment that our possessions ask more of us than is necessary, and more than ever before. But I disagree that any object is finished. That Casio that the author mentions, yes it goes 7 years without a battery change, but the day the battery dies will be the day that you have to buy a new battery, figure out how to open it, and change it. Or (as many people will unfortunately do) throw it away and buy a new one because it's beat up now anyway.
Tools dull, and people neglect to sharpen them. Filters clog, and people neglect to clean them. Oil needs to be changed, guitar strings lose their brightness, lightbulbs flicker and die, rooftops gather moss. We live in a world where our possessions require maintenance, and the only solution to that is to have fewer possessions. Some people choose to rent instead of buying because they don't want to deal with property upkeep (which is undoubtedly a bad deal, but one that some choose to make regardless.)
The iPhone that the author mentions gives many tools to silence notifications from apps. The real problem is the social expectation that we are always paying attention, always ready to respond. I had a phone free week last year and now frequently will leave my phone in another room on silent for hours at a time unintentionally. It irritates my friends and my wife when I don't respond to their texts immediately. And it's frustrating that these features are being foisted on us more and more. But ultimately all things require maintenance, including relationships, and ultimately we set the standard of how much we have to give and are willing to put up with.
As far as the watch goes, personally I wear a Casio Tough Solar w/ Waveceptor because in theory they should go decades without needing a battery change or needing me to set the time, unless I travel. The WVA-M640 is reasonably stylish, and G-Shocks are virtually indestructible. As long as they keep changing the rules there's no escaping daylight saving time though.
- greedo 3 hours agoMy dad once told me that just because he had a phone (landline), that he was under no obligation to answer it. I thought it was funny at the time but I wish he was still around for me to tell him he was right.
When iPhones became common, my ex-wife would get upset when I wouldn't reply to a text message. Sometimes I was busy and missed the notification, or couldn't answer (like in a meeting, driving, etc). Or I knew that the message would be better answered in person.
The social expectations part is hard to overcome. Societal contracts, whether implicit or explicit are very hard to ignore.
- cam_l 2 hours agoAgree, and funny also that the author shows the F91W.
It has a thriving hacker community built around it. You can get a new arm motherboard with a breakout for a sensor board. Sensorwatch have released a temperature sensor and an accelerometer.
Plus it is loud! But there is another mod I saw to make it quieter.
- pimlottc 7 hours agoI agree, I think the idea of products being done is a temporary illusion. Older analog technology needed a lot more maintenance over time. I doubt someone in the 1970s would agree with this; most things then needed to be regularly mended, fixed, tuned, serviced, repaired, refilled, what have you.
It’s only in the last few decades that materials and manufacturing have gotten good enough that you can expect gadgets to “just work” without regular maintenance. And we’ve also had products cheap enough that people normally throw them out rather than maintaining them.
- greedo 3 hours agoI don't agree. Older tech was simpler, and often more reliable. They didn't depend on being able to connect to a networked time clock for sync, didn't need networking period. Today's systems are inherently fragile.
I grew up in the 70's. About the only thing I would say is less fragile are cars. Today's cars are just better in so many ways but are unmaintainable by the average user.
And people throw out things instead of repairing them because they don't know how. But that's changing as self-repair movements have taught millions. For example, the Kitchen Aid mixer. The original, built by Hobart and acquired by KitchenAid was a tank. However it had a sacrificial gear and people said that was a flaw because they didn't understand the purpose of sheer pins or sacrificial gears. Now it's pretty well understood thanks to YouTubers like Mr. Mixer that repairing these is easy peezy.
- mememememememo 58 minutes agoOh come on. 7 years change a battery. That is low maintenance. There is no gotcha. It is damn near zero.
Infact if you hate it, buy a new casio every 4 weeks... it is cheaper than Apple Care.
- TacticalCoder 4 hours agoCommon... I've got tools I "inherited" from my grandpa that are still fine (brothers and I basically inherited the house and the tools where in the shed and whenever I go there on vacation, I use those tools to fix the house). I've got a screwdriver which I definitely remember using as a teenager, in the late 80s (and which I used for a variety of DIY jobs ever since) to assemble the trucks on my skateboards. And that screwdriver is a prized possession of mine: it's got a story. Hammers, saws, stainless steel scissors, hoses (to water the plants), multi-tool tools (don't know if they're stainless steel but they still look good), etc. Plenty of stuff still totally usable decades later.
You cannot compare tools that can outlast humans (like my grandpa and now myself) with an Apple watch that's going to be junk in a few years at most.
Even for oil that needs changing, things that needs lubricating once every blue moon (like, say, a mechanical watch): it's quite different to drop a tiny bit of lubricant inside a mechanical watch that's already 30 years old compared to having to update the firmware of whatever Internet-of-insecure-and-shitty-Thing gizmo that's going to be a thing of the past in a few years.
And if you really let a nice mechanical watch idle for decades, at least someone can do this:
"Restoring a Vintage Rolex Submariner with the Original Box, Paperwork... Even the Receipt!"
While I'm really not sure there are going to be people out there keeping a connected wristwatch from 2026 going in the year 2066 (not sure about the value of that either).
- greedo 3 hours agoWhen The Force Awakens, I spent $99 on a toy version of BB8 that you could control from your iPhone. It was a cool toy. Then after a while the app was no longer supported... Sad times.
I also owned every iPhone from the first through iPhone 7 and kept each as I replaced the old one. After a while, none were usable due to changes in cellphone tech. And I realized keeping LiO batteries around was a huge fire hazard...
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- supliminal 6 hours ago> That Casio that the author mentions
At the risk of sounding snide, thank you for mentioning this. I am going to skip this article, so you probably saved me a bunch of time.
- strict9 11 hours agoThis is an interesting and more apt way to frame smart features.
One way I've found to avoid objects that come alive is to buy the commercial version.
- TVs aimed at commercial hospitality businesses let you avoid a lot of the bloatware and smart features that come bundled with it
- Commercial washer/dryers let you avoid bluetooth and wifi and other junk not needed to wash your clothes. These are available without the coin operated features
Commercial versions of consumer products are usually simpler, more durable, and don't have advertising and smart features.
- ggreer 9 hours agoIt can also make sense to buy old/used versions of consumer products. For example: My parents have a washer & dryer from the mid 90s. They occasionally get a new belt, but besides that there's not much that can go wrong with them.
If you're looking at buying used stuff, it's important to research common failures for that specific product and what can be done to fix them. As long as it's popular enough that parts still exist, you should be good to go. You do pay a cost in terms of time, so it's important to pick your battles.
The most annoying thing to me is government-mandated smart devices. For example: In Washington state, all new water heaters must have a feature that causes them to reduce the water temperature if the grid is experiencing high demand.[1] There are no exemptions for off-grid installations. Everyone ends up with a more expensive, less reliable water heater. In my case I found a contractor who was willing to install a dumb water heater, but not everyone is as savvy. The state also mandates that new thermostats be programmable (no more simple bimetal thermostats), which is another electronic part that can fail.[2] Ideally governments would create incentives to encourage more efficient energy usage (such taxes & subsidies), but not require or ban specific solutions.
1. https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=51-11C-40414
2. https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=51-11R-40310
- compounding_it 4 hours agoNewer stuff is more efficient. For example washers and dryers have a direct drive technology with gears that help it use less power and maybe even less water.
- anamax 30 minutes agoThe energy saved by a new washer or dryer vs an older one is dwarfed by the energy needed to make the new washer or dryer.
FWIW, the same applies to most building replacements. Yes, the newer buildings use less energy, but the savings doesn't pay for the cost of replacing an old one.
- ggreer 4 hours agoI don't think efficiency matters at all for washers, as they are a rounding error in terms of water usage. Most water is for agriculture, not domestic consumption.[1] The main issues for appliances are reliability and ease of repair. Newer machines have more electronics and software, making them worse in both respects.
1. https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/05/11/california-water-you-d...
- PaulDavisThe1st 2 hours agoAs a resident of rural New Mexico, and board member of our local village water association, I'ev thought about and spoken about this issue a lot. Most of the time, I'm saying the same as you.
However ... when you move from the biggest picture view (in this case either state or regional water use patterns) and instead focus on a smaller, local one (e.g. the well(s) that tap into a single aquifer for all the 250 people who live here), a different story emerges.
The story: the low-water appliances may make no difference at the state/regional level, but they may keep our aquifer within its normal range during a 23 year and counting drought. That is, while our residential water usage is swamped by the ranches down the road growing alfalfa for their animals, it is still relevant to the state of our aquifer, and reducing that usage by 30-50% (as has been the case over the last 30 years or so) may play a significant role in not overdrawing the aquifer.
- ggreer 11 minutes agoI assumed it would go without saying that a general statement about agricultural water usage would not apply to a desert community of 250 people experiencing a 23 year drought.
- mghackerlady 11 hours agoPart of me wonders if things are like this because the masses have been trained to see their abuse as a good thing, in a similar way to how the american worker sees themselves not as exploited but as a temporarily restrained exploiter
- gchamonlive 11 hours agoThey are also likely to cost more and aren't normally directly available to regular customers, like you need either a business license of some sort and to contact a representative.
- strict9 10 hours agoIt is true commercial versions are slightly more expensive. But this is the tradeoff of buying something more durable and meant to be used continuously.
But it's not true that they are difficult to buy.
For my two examples: Commercial washer/dryer sets available through any appliance dealer. Commercial hospitality TVs and other commercial electronics are available via Grainger.
- gchamonlive 8 hours agoMight be a regional thing. Here where I live I don't think it'd be easy to find commercial or industrial grade appliances for domestic use
- dugidugout 7 hours agoI'll add Oreck to the list! Their commercial vacs [0] are robust (the design is dead simple) and overall a refreshing packaging in a bizzaro land where lights and sensors are prioritized over weight and profile! Although I did hear they have fallen from prestige as result from an international buyout some-time ago. Leaving this here for the chance someone can provide an account! Mine from the mid 2000s is still a beast!
- Animats 11 hours agoThe article (with its doom-scrolling) suggests some stats phones should have:
That would be kind of cool.Dismissing a notification ...... 22% Intentional use ................ 20% Checking something that pinged . 18% Replying to a person ........... 15% Updating/configuring/fixing .... 12% Unlocking, forgetting why ...... 8% Managing a subscription ........ 5%The real headache is that everything with a network connection needs system administration.
- loloquwowndueo 11 hours agoYou can turn off the doom scrolling!
- eykanal 12 hours agoThere's a great essay hiding in that page, but oh my goodness that is a frustrating format and layout.
- zxlk21e 12 hours agoSorry, I try to keep both camps in mind as I build these things. There's a text version linked at the top, but the link is here: https://www.terrygodier.com/the-last-quiet-thing/ascii
- nicbou 8 hours agoI found it neat to be given the choice. Both formats were good.
- pimlottc 10 hours agoA small plea to authors - if you absolutely must use scroll-linked animations and fade-ins, please at least make sure all the text is fully readable within 25% of the scroll height. It is so frustrating not being able to read things until they reach the middle of the page. Trying to look at images that aren't fully loaded until the top is already scrolling off the page! What's the point of having a 4k monitor if I can only use the top half!
- pugworthy 12 hours agoLink at top...
- StilesCrisis 10 hours agoWell, it's LLM generated for sure. I wouldn't call it great.
- a96 8 hours agoLooked like a broken page until I happened to scroll (as that works with broken pages). Stopped and closed when I saw Apple crap.
- jdkoeck 8 hours agoIt sure looks like the author likes webpages coming alive too!
- nevster 4 hours agoI hate that fade-in stuff. Basically just close any page that does it.
- encom 10 hours agoprefers-reduced-motion == 1 quiets that nonsense in a lot of cases, but many sites don't respect it. I wish this gratuitous animation fad would just die already. It adds nothing.
- duskdozer 20 minutes agoI hope it's a fad, but I'm not feeling good about it. I think the only real solution is something browser level that doesn't rely on developers/their management respecting it. (Or well, a new name that doesn't include "prefers" or "reduced"...)
I really don't understand why people want intentional lag added to everything.
- solarkraft 9 hours agoI find that it adds a lot.
- throw949449 12 hours ago> This watch costs twelve dollars. It weighs twenty-one grams.
> This watch costs four hundred dollars. It also tells time. > It also tracks my steps, monitors my blood oxygen, measures my sleep quality, logs my workouts, reminds me to breathe, reminds me to stand,
I had quite opposite experince with casio. If I want water proof (like swimming) watches, I would have to buy bulky and super expensive gshock with GPS and tons of useless festures.
$20 chinese smart watch are completely water sealed, tiny and simple to use. I can even remove wrist band, to make them even smaller. Only downside is battery life is only one week.
- WOTERMEON 9 hours agoWhile apple's one is 1 day
- drob518 9 hours agoAs a wise man once said, anything plus computer equals computer.
- erelong 4 hours agoI liked the distinction between "done" and ["ongoing"] with devices, although the end of the article pivots away from minimalism which for me kind of is the solution some people are looking for
We're basically looking to replace the infinite scroll with a finite scroll or at least milestones on the scroll
Also for some things, I wonder if the solution is giant batteries or whatever equivalent might exist - from a phone that needs to be charged every day to a block that needs to be charged weekly (!) (or at a longer time interval?!) - I feel like this could make thinsg feel "done longer" anyway...
- altairprime 1 day agoThis post says, “22% dismiss notifications”. Why do people allow this? I see people with phones that have 3 new notifications per 5 minutes and none of them are human being messages or human being event reminders.
Turn off every notification that isn’t actionable or joyful to you. The news isn’t actionable. Stop letting the news task you. Your social feeds aren’t actionable. Stop letting your feeds task you.
(And, yes, I’ll concede that Duo push is valid, because either I initiated that, or I have a problem to solve. Being employed brings some of us joy, after all!)
Notifications are not meant to fill the silences in your life. Your thoughts are. Not all the random drivel that phones opportunistically shovel into our faces.
I don’t really like this post because it rabble-rouses rather than owning up to the major failure of the author up top. Maybe it’ll help someone regardless, but it could have been a lot more direct with no less effectiveness. Missed opportunity, I suppose.
- badc0ffee 10 hours ago> Turn off every notification that isn’t actionable or joyful to you.
I have notifications on for Uber Eats because I want updates when I order a food delivery. Of course, the app takes this opportunity to randomly (though infrequently) send me ad notifications during the other 98% of the time. Just this past week I've seen notifications for getting my Easter shopping done, and something for "National Burrito Day" which I'm sure is totally a real thing.
Unfortunately, lots of apps are like this. But are they annoying or frequent enough that I will turn off notifications? No, because I'd rather put up with it than have to remember to turn them back on the next time I order something.
- altairprime 10 hours agoI solve that in a hilarious way: by uninstalling the app when I’m not using it. Works perfectly, other than some slight sign-in friction, for e.g. airlines, Uber/Etsy, and so on. But I’d rather suffer through logging in with a saved password than receive notification spam — I can respect that others prefer the opposite way.
- jbaber 7 hours ago[Buzzkill] for android lets you completely control if you get specific notifications at all or with sound etc. I bunch up noisy text threads in once-a-day chunks, silence all notifications not about/from nuclear family from sleep to wake, etc.
It really made me appreciate that, when I have to have my phone, notifications are like an extra obnoxious form of e-mail with all of its problems. [Buzzkill] gives me the phone equivalent of Inbox Zero.
[Buzzkill]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samruston....
- badc0ffee 3 hours agoThe filtering looks fairly powerful, but I wonder if I could have it hide notifications from apps that I haven't interacted with in 24 hours. I would do that for ALL of the delivery and transportation apps.
- altairprime 1 hour ago(iOS users, when you force quit an app, I believe that prevents it from initiating push notifications until you reopen it. Or it used to, I haven’t tested recently and perhaps it doesn’t stop modern ads? Data needed.)
- zxlk21e 12 hours agoManaging these notifications (which are on by default most of the time) is a form of what I'm writing at here, isn't it?
- alabut 10 hours agoSure, notifications are inherently disruptive by nature and there’s an admin tax to turning them off. But unless you’re installing new apps every day, it’s a one-time fix and not an ongoing distraction.
That’s the realistic gray area in between the extremes of the argument. I enjoy the analog experience of my 20 year old Nikon the way you like your Casio, but they’re also both luxury items precisely because neither one is inherently important to daily life. They’re fun toys, not real tools.
- loloquwowndueo 11 hours agoKinda but one-time disabling of notifications on a new app is setting the time on your Casio watch a couple of times a year. Do it once (or very infrequently) and you’re done.
Mine is a Timex Ironman :)
- altairprime 10 hours agoThey’re only on if you clicked “Allow” on the permissions dialog for them, right? Or is this a thing where Android is forcing everyone to accept notifications by default? Or..?
- solarkraft 9 hours agoI want to. The apps want the opposite. Apple is unfortunately on the side of the apps.
By app store guidelines, it’s officially disallowed to use notifications for marketing. Of course the apps find their ways, at different levels of honesty. This has led to me turning off all notifications for some apps, but the problem is the mixing of channels. I don’t want my bank to send me ads, but I do want it to notify me about transactions.
- a96 8 hours agoLooks like you found the root of the problem already.
- nicbou 8 hours agoI have an iPad Mini that was supposed to replace books and notebooks, since I travel a lot and travel light. Right from the start, I decided to make it a quiet device. I've had it since 2020, and it basically never bothered me, save for a yearly software update that happens in the background. Not bad!
In the end I switched back to paper because physical media is more satisfying to write on and flip through. My iPad Mini was perfectly quiet. The only annoyance is the battery life.
The hardest problem in my opinion is separating tools from distractions when they live on the same device. Using the calculator might mean getting sidetracked by a WhatsApp notification. A boring ebook chapter is competing with algorithmic feeds a swipe away. I find that having a separate, offline device (or just a book) allows me to keep my phone a few meters away.
- ben8bit 11 hours agoFunny story, but I didn't realise I much I didn't want an Apple Watch, until I got one. I exercise daily and most days I just want it to shut up.
- lexoj 6 hours agoI’ve disabled all activity notifications. It actually helps me avoid the phone on other type of notifications.
- andyjohnson0 10 hours agoSure, screen time. But I am also deeply tired of just keeping things charged. Some of my stuff insists on special usb cables - because those cables contain chips that mediate between the <thing> and its charger. Its exhausting.
- tombert 10 hours agoYeah, it's something I think about a lot.
I have a smartwatch, I like it just fine, but I kind of think that smartwatches are actually pretty bad at being a watch. I had a Casio G-Shock for about a decade that I wore nearly every day [1], and I never had to change the battery. My Garmin Instinct Crossover, which is considered to have very good battery life, has to be charged every two weeks, which despite that seeming like a long time, I manage to forget about it every time until the battery is dead.
[1] I have a few fancy wind-up watches I wear to formal occasions.
- solarkraft 9 hours agoI’m not willing to settle for less than the Pebble Time Steel’s week that it holds a charge for nowadays. I think that is about fine for me.
- tombert 9 hours agoYeah, I mean, the Instinct Crossover has been my favorite smartwatch that I've used, and two weeks is a decent lifespan for these things, but I do kind of miss never having to worry about charging it.
- RationPhantoms 9 hours agoDoes your physical environment change that much that it requires cognitive load for you to decide on what cables to use? For myself, I bought two wireless charge "base" stations that handle my spouse's and my phone/watch/airpods. That's it. One place, bedside, where I need to put things.
Sure, for new equipment or in a pinch (that becomes cumbersome) but even traveling, you know what equipment you have, charge rate and things needing to get charged from what connector type. So you purchase the variants that you need.
- doug_durham 8 hours agoI personally don't want my possessions to be "done". I want new capabilities. the issue the author points are not issues to me. It sounds like they have thought through what technology means for them, and have found an approach that works for them. That is great. There is a reason that the Apple Watch outsells all other analog watches.
- HerbManic 6 hours agoThat last point is the 'argument from popularity' logical fallacy but I guess we are talking opinion not facts here. ;) Personally, when it comes to tech, people are generally ok with their decisions. Not great but not bad either.
You do bring up a good point in term of wanting new additions if possible. The real question is, who is adding the capabilities? And do you have any control over these additions?
More I have new things forced onto me and it is very clear they came from the management teams to drive engagement rather than a genuinely useful new feature. If you could just outright disable or uninstall said feature then there is no problem, but that is rarely the case any more.
- cineticdaffodil 7 hours agoBut do you really choose that ?
- gchamonlive 11 hours agoI don't know what's the state in other markets, but where I live, Brazil, you always have the dumb consumer products. I think the only pathological example are TVs in which they require you to signin before being able to download streaming apps, but this is something that if you really must you can work around by buying a TV box.
Also, can't you just not give these products the password to your WiFi? Do they make fridges and wash machines that don't work without internet?
- jp57 4 hours agoIDK. The neediest possession I own is my sailboat. It is never finished. And it’s incredibly low tech. The highest tech part of it, the gps chart plotter, is not internet connected and it more or less works like that guy’s old watch. Meanwhile, the physical boat is desperately needy. An infinite to-do list. Other sailors i talk to say this is pretty normal.
- mdswanson 6 hours agoSounds like: https://blog.mikeswanson.com/backseat-software/
- pizzathyme 9 hours agoI used to work in the games industry and this is a large split between older games and newer games. Traditional games like Super Mario don't "reach out" through notifications for you to play them more like Roblox. You are in control of the on/off switch
- tariky 9 hours agoThose Casio watches are just amazing. I got legendary gw-5000u and it has become part of my body. I'm wondering how much 30+ year are feeling like author of this post. I for sure do not want any device that I need to babysit.
- solarkraft 9 hours agoWhat a beautifully presented article. It rings true.
Growing up I’ve been feeling overwhelmed with the bureaucracy of life - maybe it wouldn’t be so bad if I didn’t already have to manage an entire ecosystem of shit that I need to care about.
- lunasorcery 10 hours agoWhile I agree with the article, I can't help but feel like the superfluous animations undercut it somewhat. Would be nice to have a version with the images/diagrams but without the animations - maybe add support for prefers-reduced-motion?
- andsoitis 10 hours agoRight at the top is a conspicuous option to read as plain text, which takes you to https://www.terrygodier.com/the-last-quiet-thing/ascii
- lunasorcery 9 hours ago...which swaps the font for monospace (less legible for body text in my experience, my eyes start just glazing over) and swaps the images and diagrams for ascii art (or in some cases omits them entirely).
There’s a comfortable middle-ground to be had between the two options.
- caprock 5 hours agoIn many many ways our technology is not working on our behalf. Even though it seems possible.
- mghackerlady 11 hours agoI love this. Maybe it's because I've always subconsciously realised this (I do prefer my flip phone and my iPhone stays in a drawer at home) but I've never seen something put words to my thoughts more accurately than this has
- hmokiguess 11 hours agoIronically, casio, the company behind the prime example is now doing these kinds of things: https://www.casio.com/us/moflin/
- forinti 10 hours agoBut they keep churning out the classic watches and they are everywhere and cheap.
- KingOfCoders 1 hour agoLove my GW-M5610-1ER. G-Shock robust. Radio. Solar. Really water resistant. No attention grabber. Just works.
- pixelmelt 11 hours agoI liked this, reminds me of some other discussion on recycling/global warming etc being pushed as the comsumers fault
- airza 11 hours agoSome of these fonts and transitions I like a lot, but sometimes it feels like there are a few too many fonts on screen.
- mghackerlady 11 hours agoIt has a plaintext version which I appreciate (though I wish it were actual plaintext instead off formatted html with the aesthetics of plaintext)
- qbane 10 hours agoThe watch is interactive! Nice detail
- kmoser 9 hours ago> You have fifteen years of it.
For some of us it has been much longer than fifteen years.
- globular-toast 11 hours agoI'm getting into woodwork. I just bought a vice made in the 1940s, the same one my grandfather used. It's finished. As are my chisels, and my cast iron cookware. It's definitely refreshing.
- greedo 3 hours agoAnd you can find stuff in perfect condition for reasonable prices! I have a ton of Stanley planes that are amazing.
- solarkraft 9 hours agoHow will you stay up to date with the manufacturer‘s latest updates without the app?
- Avicebron 8 hours agoThe time thing is a really nice touch
- ToucanLoucan 11 hours agoLoved this. A lot of what's kept me sane (and what my wife is now trying to learn from me) is how absolutely merciless I am on notifications. Every time an app buzzes me, it damn well better be information I want, and if it isn't, I change the settings or revoke notifications altogether. If I am not shopping, I do not care how good your deals are. If I am not bored, I don't care what the Anxiety Machine has found to show me.
My devices serve me, not the shareholders of their respective firms.
- supern0va 10 hours agoThere is still a remarkable amount of friction here in doing so. There should be a one click button for "don't show me notifications like this", which incentivizes apps to have appropriate granular notification settings.
And don't even get me started on how Samsung on certain models hid the notification categories behind a feature gate with a random OS update.
- aaroninsf 5 hours ago<Me, wearing my Casio watch that I found on our hill.>
- aristech 8 hours agoSmart devices are making us think less
- taco_emoji 10 hours agooh my god this is so pretentious. At least use high-contrast color if you want me to read your deep philosophical treatise on Technology These Days
- RuoqiJin 11 hours agoOh my god this site is so cool. I just want to say — how much time did you pour into the typography and animations on the frontend? I absolutely love it.
You picked the right way to show each paragraph — what to expand, what to keep short, what to highlight. I couldn't stop scrolling. UR an artist! maybe AI can help style every line of text, but it can't make something feel this good to read.
- zxlk21e 10 hours agoA lot! The Casio up top is fully functional (click the buttons!)
- itmitica 12 hours agoHa. Ha. Ha. He expects to still find a battery fit for the Casio watch 7 years from now! Good luck with that buddy!
- zxlk21e 12 hours agoEssay author here - they're readily available! It's just a CR2016.
ref: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Casio+F-91W+Battery+Replacement...
- itmitica 9 hours agoPeople really are stupid these days...
- encom 10 hours agoYou chumps still change watch batteries? My Stowa Flieger is powered by my arm movements.
- djoldman 11 hours ago> Screen Time gives you a report card. And if the grade is bad, the design makes one thing clear:
> That's a you problem.
> It measures your usage. Tracks your behavior. Gives you a weekly report card. If the numbers are too high?
> You picked it up too much.
> You spent too long.
> You failed your limit.
> Try again next week.
> Try harder.
> Screen Time is a blame shift dressed in a soft font.
> ... What if the exhaustion everybody feels isn't a moral failure but the completely rational response to being made responsible for an ecosystem of objects that never stop asking?
> Everything you buy is the beginning of a relationship you'll be maintaining until one of you dies or gets discontinued.
For adults: nothing requires you to use a smartphone. Buy that Casio watch if you want. Use those wired headphones and never pair them again (I do).
EDIT: Some things require a smartphone, not nothing.
- nancyminusone 10 hours ago>nothing requires you to use a smartphone
Another story from the hn front page today:
- djoldman 10 hours agoTrue. I amended my response.
There are exceptions. Also, curiously, some things require older hardware like faxes and do not accept newer hardware like smartphones.
- mbgerring 2 days agoMy smart watch has become an invaluable digital prosthetic to help me backfill cognitive challenges that I’ve learned are related to ADHD.
“It dings all the time!” Yes, exactly, having a buzzer attached to my person at all times ensures I don’t miss appointments and that I leave to things on time.
Your thermostat that bothers you? It would be great if we lived in a world where energy was free, and there were no consequences for using as much energy as you want. That’s not the world we live in. And you probably don’t want to live in a world where the power company decides when you can and can’t turn on your AC. This is the compromise. I’m sorry you’re bothered by it — the consequences of other solutions to this problem are likely much worse.
It’s easy to forget that these things exist, and people buy them, to solve real problems. But writing a whole essay and just eliding that fact strikes me as lazy.
- mghackerlady 11 hours agoI agree to an extent. I also have ADHD and find these things useful, but the tradeoff is that to be effective they always have to be important in a way a cell phone or smart watch is very bad at guaranteeing since their main customer isn't the consumer but the advertising firm. I wish bespoke PDAs were still a thing (or at least, an easily accessible thing)
- AlotOfReading 12 hours agoThe larger point of the article is that these new devices are dependent on your continued labor to keep them running usefully. Moreover, this is a choice in how they're designed.
The article isn't saying they don't do other things, it's just not relevant.
- zxlk21e 12 hours agoFor the record, I also have ADHD and I find the opposite impact on my psyche.